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  1. I’m new to this discussion, and am an old amateur with experience with a few like Dennett, Pigliucci, and NYU professors in the mid-late 60s. It fascinates me that serious philosophers can use terms like god and absolutes these days. Provide shareable evidence of anything not physical ( energy-matter-information) or dependent upon it to exist, and expect a Nobel Prize!

    Steven B Kurtz

    Amherst MA

    1. Pretty close to my instinct, @Steven B Kurtz . I just apply it to everything, including my own cherished frameworks. Hitchens gets the burden right: what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Dennett’s question is what explanatory work the extra posit actually does, and @Massimo Pigliucci is strongest when he keeps metaphysics answerable to science without turning methodological naturalism into physicalism by fiat. My framework adds the symmetry: absence of evidence is not automatically evidence of absence. So add only what the evidence has earned, subtract only what it has defeated, and don’t universalize what the evidence supports only locally. If God, the Absolute, anything nonphysical, or any universal claim about what reality must ultimately be is asserted, show what distinguishes it from the alternatives. Until then, the receipt book has nothing to account for. 🤣

        1. Exactly. “Dismissed” here does not mean “proved false” or non-existant. It means “not entitled to belief yet.” Or more simply: lack of evidence for a claim is not proof that the claim is false; it just means the claim has not earned acceptance. Elliott Sober’s way of framing the evidential logic is useful here: an absence becomes evidence against a hypothesis only when that hypothesis gave us reason to expect the evidence we failed to find.

          And one step earlier, if “God,” “the Absolute,” or “the nonphysical” is not defined clearly enough to establish a stable referent or tell what would count for or against it or how anyone could know anything about it in any way that even starts to test for fraud, bias, or human error, there is not yet a stable claim to test. So this actually strengthens your original point: the claimant still owes us a clear proposition and shareable evidence, while we avoid pretending that failure to provide either proves the opposite ontology.